Marjorie Smith

Other Events:

• Occupation: Seamstress
• Residence: 1921 - 1940, Watsons Bay, NSW, Australia
• Residence: 1946 - 1956, Caringbah, NSW, Australia; 542 Port Hacking Road
• Residence: 1957, Cronulla, NSW, Australia; 87 Ewos Parade (Shelly Beach Store)
• Residence: 1958 - 2014, Caringbah, NSW, Australia; 60 Crammond Boulevarde

Notes:

Short Bio by Mike Kelly:
Marge was born Marjorie Smith in Willoughby in 1921 and in her childhood and teenage years lived an idyllic life at Watsons Bay, very close to Camp Cove beach ('Campie'). In her early school days she walked to school along the foreshores of Watsons Bay and on to Vaucluse Primary School. Weekend fun included swimming at the "Bogie Hole", a roughly cut swimming pool in the harbour side rocks near Camp Cove. In her secondary school years, she caught the tram from the terminus near Camp Cove into a girl's secondary school in Darlinghurst. During these years the students were able to observe the two arches Harbour Bridge coming together at close quarters from their school grounds. After leaving school she worked as a seamstress at a City firm, again catching the tram from Camp Cove: invariably running late, the tram conductors gave her the nickname of "the road runner". During her teenage years Marge and her cousin Sylvia often went dancing at The Trocadero in the City.
Around the time that World War II started, Marge met her future husband, Jack, when he was assigned to the military barracks at South Head. They married at St. Peters church at Watsons Bay in October 1941 and spent their honeymoon in the Blue Mountains. Not long after that, Jack was posted to New Guinea where he spent most of the war. Marge volunteered for war work and worked at the Beaufort Bomber factory in Sydney.
Jack and Marge's first child was born towards the end of World War II, when Marge was still living with her parents. After Jack was discharged from the army in 1945 they made the bold decision to move to Caringbah which at that time was mostly bushland, but it was their only option if they were to eventually own their own home. After renting a cottage in Regatta Avenue for a short they made the decision to buy a block of land in nearby Port Hacking Road. At the time building materials were very scarce and you had to "know somebody" in order to obtain building material such as timber, tiles etc.; luckily Jack was in the building trade and had a few connections. Jack and Marge first built a "temporary" dwelling followed by a full size house (both buildings are still standing). By this time their second child had arrived.
Marge and Jack lived in the "house that Jack built" for many years and in 1955 their third child was born. Around this time Jack decided to try his hand at retailing and they bought a small store at Shelly Beach near Cronulla. By 1959 Jack realised he was not cut out for retailing and resumed his career in the building trade and moving back to Caringbah. Marge always handled the family finances and helped out by taking on part time work whenever she could. Life was not always easy, but Marge staunchly held the family together and was a totally devoted wife and mother.
After Jack retired they were able to manage a few overseas trips and enjoyed many hours on Botany Bay in their little tinnie catching flathead by the dozen. They often relaxed at the Caringbah RSL club, where Jack was a very early member. The arrival of a new grandchild or great grandchild was a big occasion for Marge, she never forgot their birthdays and they could count on a card in the mail with the customary $5 note. When Jack became ill and was in hospital, Marge was a daily visitor and carer, often walking long distances every day. After Jack passed away in 2005, Marge continued as the family matriarch, she had a special place in her heart for a couple of the more mischievous great grandchildren. She always looked forward to the occasional glass of beer and the odd flutter on the poker machines at the SUS club on Sundays.
Marge's passing marks the end of an era, as all of her siblings and cousins have also passed away.
Marge Kelly was a gentle lady with a heart of gold, pioneer of Sutherland Shire and devoted wife, mother, grandmother and great grandmother.

Marjorie married John Kevin Kelly on 24 Oct 1941 in Watsons Bay, NSW, Australia. John (son of Arthur Henry Kelly and Jessie Edith S Griffin) was born on 11 Feb 1916 in Sydney, NSW, Australia; died on 02 Jun 2005 in Kareena Hospital, Caringbah, NSW; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Married:
St.Peters church, Watson's Bay

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3. Living

Notes:

From Dan Byrnes:

His mother died a few weeks after he was born at Gilgandra. He was given to a family named Johnsn/Johnston to be cared for. He saw his father only once, when he was about three years old. Thomas applied for his birth certificate in 1928, when he was 40. Or, Ohalam. He may be John Thomas O Smith? Larkin has notes from general records, births, of Smith, 1888, Thomas O. Smith, to John T. and Catherine of Coonamble, in 1885 a John Thomas S, to John and Hannah at Brisbane Waters. This Thomas is of Waverly in the Larkin tree. Late in his life, his lost parents were once identified but he never bothered to delve further into who were his siblings. Where is that info? Grandfather of compiler Daniel Thomas Byrnes. Cf., David Austin Larkin, Cornwall to Coogee: Taylor, Rooke and Windle Family Histories. Self-published, Burpengary Qld, 1989. ISBN 0 9592440 1 8.



From daughter Marge Kelly 26/1/2008:

Tom's mother Catherine died when Tom was only 3 weeks old and Tom was raised on a farm by the Johnson family of Gilgandra. Tom's only memory of his father was when Tom was 3 years old his father came to visit him and gave him a bag of marbles, he watched his Dad ride away and never saw him again.

Tom became friendly with the Hamilton family who owned a hotel in Dubbo, and accompanied some of the Hamilton boys to Sydney. This was a permanent move for Tom. The Hamiltons also had an electrical store in Sydney and Tom acquired appliances from them. He owned a radio at a time when they were not common and also a clock which he kept all his life and which stayed in the possession of Elizabeth after his death. Those that knew Tom and Elizabeth probably remember the clock sitting on the mantelpiece and the ritual winding of same. Tom always kept in touch with the Hamiltons, one of the Hamilton sisters attended Elizabeth's 90th birthday in Tamworth and commented at the time that Tom "was always a good boy". Tom always said he was the youngest of 7 siblings.

Marge remembers Tom said that he slept his first night in Sydney on a Manly ferry (stowed away?)

Tom's foster parents only gave him two years of primary education prior to putting him to work on their farm. After moving to Sydney, Tom realised the he needed further education and studied as a mature age student. He turned out to be a good mathmetician and Marge remembers evening visits by Vaucluse Council engineers to discuss with Tom how a road should be designed and to work out the curves etc.

From Debbie Musgrave:

Grave details: Anglican 5D Row 7 Grave no. 87


From Debbie Musgrave:

Tom's mother did NOT die shortly after he was born, this was just a story that Tom handed down to his family. His parents actually abandoned him. His mother died at Redfern 33 years later just a short distance from where her abandoned son Tom was living.

Buried:
Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
A5D - Anglican FM 5D - 87

Tom's burial was delayed by a strike at the cemetery.

Died:
Prince Henry Hospital (The Coast Hospital)

Thomas married Elizabeth Emily Windle on 12 Jul 1915 in Waverley, NSW, Australia. Elizabeth (daughter of Alfred Ernest Windle and Sarah Rebecca Meades) was born on 26 Nov 1893 in Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia; died on 29 Apr 1985 in The Entrance, NSW, Australia; was buried on 2 May 1985 in Botany, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Occupation: Seamstress

Notes:

From Dan Byrnes:

Marries 1915 in Larkin tree. She is born 1894 in Larkin tree. More to come. there is gernforum at http://www.jenforum.net/windle/. There are Windles of Indian, Braxton Co WV, Virginia, Moncton New Brunswick Canada, New Market Virginia, Milwaukee Wisconsin, Charles Windle of South London, Michigan, Chicago, of Horton, Yorkshire England, of Preston Lancs, England. Windle of New Zealand. Family history by David Larkin, Cornwall to Coogee, 23 Eleanor St., Burpengary, QLD 4505. Phone: (07) 3888 2168.



Birth:
St. Pauls Street

Buried:
Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
A5D - Anglican FM 5D - 87

Notes:

From Marjorie Smith:

After Tom and Elizabeth were married they lived with Elizabeth's mother Sarah at Bondi Junction (Mill Hill Road) for a period before moving to St, Leonards where Tom had secured employment as a labouror. When Tom secured employment with Vaucluse Council they moved to Vaucluse and lived a small house which was only half built and was called "The Rest". Around 1928 they moved to Watson's Bay where the children grew up and which was always a "special place" for them.



From Debbie Musgrave (marriage certificate):

Tom and Elizabeth wre married on 12 Jul 1915 at St. Barnabus' church, Mill Hill, Waverly by Robert Lyle Houston, minister.

Other Events:

• Residence: 23 Jun 1888, Merrigal, NSW, Australia; : 39

John married Catherine Elizabeth Donnelly on 09 Sep 1881 in Gulgong, NSW, Australia. Catherine (daughter of John Donnelly and Margaret) was born on 1 Oct 1848 in Bathurst, NSW, Australia; died on 17 Aug 1919 in Redfern, NSW, Australia; was buried on 19 Aug 1919 in Rookwood, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Residence: 16 Oct 1876, Uarbry, NSW, Australia

Notes:

Thomas Ohalam always said his mother died when he was a child, but this is not correct. Anyway, Tom had no memories of his mother, he was raised by the Johnson family of Gilgandra.

From Debbie Musgrave 2013:

following on from my research dated 10 November 2011 which included the following details:

Smith Catherine 71 19/08/1919 SEC*M2*E*2116 Burial Rookwood

Rookwood Catholic Cemetery : Mortuary 2 : Area E : Grave 2116

I contacted the Rookwood catholic Cemetery and was given the following information:

* No headstone
* Catherine was buried with Emily M Hagar
* Emily was 18 years old and buried on 11 May 1917
* The owner/contact of the grave was Sidney Collins (husband of granddaughter)

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1 I found a death registration for Emily M Hagar in teh same district as Catherine Smith

Death: 5211/1917 Hagar Emily M Thomas J Sarah A Redfern

I found information on the Catholic Cemeteries site

Burial: Hagar Emily M 18 11/5/1917 SEC*M2*E*2116 Rookwood

Location: Rookwood Catholic Cemetery : Mortuary 2 : Area E : Grave 2116


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2 I found a marriage registration fpr Sarah A Smith and Thomas Hagar

Marriage: 3144/1898 Hagur Thomas Smith Sarah A Cobar

Birth:
Winburndale

Died:
NSW BDM 14263/1919

Buried:
Catholic section - 19/08/1919 SEC*M2*E*2116 Burial Rookwood - no headstone

Notes:

Possible child Sarah Ellen Smith ---->

Married:
NSW BDM 4899/1881

Other Events:

• Occupation: 1867, Sydney, NSW, Australia; Wheelright
• Residence: 7 Jan 1868, Sydney, NSW, Australia; 3 Liverpool St.
• Occupation: 1888, Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia; Fisherman
• Occupation: 1907, Narrabeen, NSW, Australia; Fisherman

Notes:

Alfred was not liked by his daughter Elizabeth Emily who remembered him as a drunken, violent father who gradually gambled away their considerable property assets in Coogee Bay, which had been inherited from his father. He was in the habit of drinking himself stupid in the City and relying on his horse to find the way home. At the Coroner's inquest into the death of his daughter, Martha May, there was also an inference that he had raped her after coming home drunk and that this led to an unwanted pregnancy and then her suicide by taking rat poison. At the inquest, he accused Martha's fiance of attacking her, but this was refuted by a string of witnesses including his wife and some of his other daughters, including Lily, then aged 11 years.



Alfred has quite a few mentions in the Herald for either assaulting other people or being assaulted himself.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=assault+tomahawk&exactPhrase=alfred+windle&anyWords=?Words=&requestHandler=&dateFrom=1870-01-01&dateTo=1920-12-31&l-advstate=New+South+Wales&l-advcategory=Article&sortby=

Died:
Rookwood Asylum (Lidcome State Hospital)

Alfred married Sarah Rebecca Meades on 07 Jan 1868 in Darlinghurst, NSW, Australia. Sarah (daughter of Samuel Meades and Hannah Anne Read) was born on 12 Mar 1849 in Maidstone, Kent, England; died on 24 Jan 1927 in Waverley, NSW, Australia; was buried on 27 Jan 1927 in Randwick Cemetery, Randwick, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Emigrated: 1863, Maidstone, Kent, England; Emigrated to Sydney, NSW
• Residence: 1867, Newtown, NSW, Australia; Newtown Road.

Notes:

From Marge Smith:

Sarah always insisted that she was to be buried at the family plot at Waverly cemetery, probably to be with daughter Martha rather than her alcoholic husband Alfred.



Randwick Cemetery
Section EE
Row T
Plot 80

Died:
19 Woodstock St.

Notes:

Married:
41 Burton St. Free Church of England

Notes:

Occupation: Farmer

John married Margaret. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Occupation: Cutler in England, landowner, wheelwright (blacksmith) and labourer in Sydney
• Transported: 15 Jul 1822, Sydney, NSW, Australia; At the age of 18, convicted of stealing 48 rolls of ribbon from the house Francis Ullathorne of Pontefract 4 Aug 1821, sentenced to death. Sentence commuted to transportation for life. Transported on Guildford 4 Apr 1822 - 15 Jul 1822, aged 19, ticket of leave received on 21 Jul 1830, conditionally pardoned on 20 Jul 1837. Extended conditional pardon 1851.
• Residence: 1838, Sydney, NSW, Australia; Goulburn Street
• Residence: 1841, Alexandria, NSW, Australia; Parramatta Street - 1841 Census
• Residence: 1844, Chippendale, NSW, Australia; 44 Wellington Street (took in immigrant)
• Residence: 1848, Chippendale, NSW, Australia; Wellington Street (from census)
• Event: 1851, Sydney, NSW, Australia; Conditional pardon extended to anywhere in the world except Britain or Ireland
• Residence: 1867, Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia; Sands Directory

Notes:

Buxton Thomas Guildford 1822 4 August 1821 York Leeds Mercury

York Assizes 4th August - The following have yet to be tried - Thomas Buxton, Alfred Leeds Mercury of Saturday 11 August 1821
York Castle - Crown Side
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The following have yet to be tried:-
Thomas BUXTON, 24, Alfred Windle, 18 and H. WILKINSON, 20 for a burglary in the house of Francis ULLATHORNE, of Pontefract.

From: "NEIL & BARBARA NICHOLLS"
Subject: W for WINDLE
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:24:43 +1000


Alfred WINDLE Guildford (5) 1822 Born 1822 Native Place Sheffield, Trade Cutter.

Tried for housebreaking in the York Assizes on August 4 1821 and given Life.

Alfred Windle was 5' 9" and fair with sandy brown hair and hazel eyes. He had a scar on centre of forehead and on left of chin. A small wart on left side of forehead, and a thick large nose!

He was allowed to remain in the District of Sydney and received his TOL 30/784 on July 21 1830.

A conditional Pardon 477/999 was granted on July 20 1837.

Alfred is buried in the Coogee Cemetery near Sydney.

Birth:
Might be 2nd May

Christened:
Cathedral Saint Peter Church

Buried:
at 3pm.

Alfred married Mary Anne Caroline Rooke on 11 May 1835 in Sydney, NSW, Australia. Mary (daughter of James Rooke and Elizabeth Chapman) was born on 29 Nov 1817 in London, England; was christened in 1818 in Finsbury, England; died on 17 Mar 1884 in Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia; was buried on 18 Mar 1884 in Randwick, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Emigrated: 1824, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia; Aged 7 years, emigrated to Van Diemens Land with family
• Occupation: 1868, Sydney, NSW, Australia; Laundress

Notes:

From Dan Byrnes:

Alfred married Rooke Caroline Mary Ann-53044 daughter of Cabinetmaker Rooke James-338326 and wife1 RNotknown Elizabeth-338327 in 1835 in St Phillips,Sydney. Caroline was born on 29 Nov 1817 in London. She was christened in 1818 in St Luke's, OLd St, Finsbury. She died in 1884 in Sydney. She was buried in Sydney.

She is dr1. Larkin notes that there may be two different women as Mary Anne seems to have changed her name to Caroline by 1840 and in 1841 listed her names as Mary AC and thereafter is listed only as Caroline, and death-listed as Caroline. Are there two different women? Larkin has her born circa 1802 in England. The ship "Guildford" arrived 1821, so she was presumably born in England. Noted as married in 1835, CofE, St Phillips, Sydney in Larkin's tree.

Christened:
St Luke's, OLd St, Finsbury

Died:
NSW BDM 4832/1884

Other Events:

• Occupation: 1841, Maidstone, Kent, England; Wire Worker (1841 Census)

Samuel married Hannah Anne Read on 25 Dec 1830 in Hollingbourne, Kent, England. Hannah (daughter of John Read and Rebecca) was born in 24Jun 1811 in Hollingbourne, Kent, England; died on 7 Mar 1870 in Sydney, NSW, Australia; was buried on 8 Mar 1870 in Rookwood, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Emigrated: 5 Dec 1865; Arrived in Sydney with son and daughter

Notes:

Elizabeth and husband Benjamin migrated to Australia in 1854. The following year Samuel Meades died, and in 1863 Benjamin sponsored Hannah and the children to come to Australia. They probably lived with the Suttons in Newtown.