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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Living

    Private married Living [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Living
    2. Living
    3. Living
    4. Living

    Private married Living [Group Sheet]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Living

    Living married Living [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Living
    Children:
    1. Living
    2. 1. Living
    3. Living


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John Kevin KellyJohn Kevin Kelly was born on 11 Feb 1916 in Sydney, NSW, Australia (son of Arthur Henry Kelly and Jessie Edith S Griffin); died on 02 Jun 2005 in Kareena Hospital, Caringbah, NSW; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: 1939 - 1945, New Guinea; Army Officer
    • Occupation: 1945-1956, Caringbah, NSW, Australia; Painter and Decorator
    • Occupation: 1957, Shelly Beach, NSW, Australia; Retailer - general store at 87 Ewos Parade (Shelly Beach Store)

    Notes:

    Jack was closer to his mother's side of the family than his father's side, probably a result of his parents splitting up shortly after Jack was born. During WWII, Jack was briefly stationed at Bathurst, and remembers going to visit his father's relatives (probably William Kelly), but he got the cold shoulder..


    Jack Kelly Memorial http://kirrawee.net/jack/

    Buried:
    Woronora Cemetery

    John married Marjorie Smith on 24 Oct 1941 in Watsons Bay, NSW, Australia. Marjorie (daughter of Thomas Ohalam Smith and Elizabeth Emily Windle) was born on 14 Feb 1921 in Willoughby, NSW, Australia; died on 12 Jun 2014 in Kirrawee, NSW, Australia; was buried on 20 Jun 2014 in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Marjorie SmithMarjorie Smith was born on 14 Feb 1921 in Willoughby, NSW, Australia (daughter of Thomas Ohalam Smith and Elizabeth Emily Windle); died on 12 Jun 2014 in Kirrawee, NSW, Australia; was buried on 20 Jun 2014 in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Seamstress
    • Residence: 1921 - 1940, Watsons Bay, NSW, Australia
    • Residence: 1946 - 1956, Caringbah, NSW, Australia; 542 Port Hacking Road
    • Residence: 1957, Cronulla, NSW, Australia; 87 Ewos Parade (Shelly Beach Store)
    • Residence: 1958 - 2014, Caringbah, NSW, Australia; 60 Crammond Boulevarde

    Notes:

    Short Bio by Mike Kelly:
    Marge was born Marjorie Smith in Willoughby in 1921 and in her childhood and teenage years lived an idyllic life at Watsons Bay, very close to Camp Cove beach ('Campie'). In her early school days she walked to school along the foreshores of Watsons Bay and on to Vaucluse Primary School. Weekend fun included swimming at the "Bogie Hole", a roughly cut swimming pool in the harbour side rocks near Camp Cove. In her secondary school years, she caught the tram from the terminus near Camp Cove into a girl's secondary school in Darlinghurst. During these years the students were able to observe the two arches Harbour Bridge coming together at close quarters from their school grounds. After leaving school she worked as a seamstress at a City firm, again catching the tram from Camp Cove: invariably running late, the tram conductors gave her the nickname of "the road runner". During her teenage years Marge and her cousin Sylvia often went dancing at The Trocadero in the City.
    Around the time that World War II started, Marge met her future husband, Jack, when he was assigned to the military barracks at South Head. They married at St. Peters church at Watsons Bay in October 1941 and spent their honeymoon in the Blue Mountains. Not long after that, Jack was posted to New Guinea where he spent most of the war. Marge volunteered for war work and worked at the Beaufort Bomber factory in Sydney.
    Jack and Marge's first child was born towards the end of World War II, when Marge was still living with her parents. After Jack was discharged from the army in 1945 they made the bold decision to move to Caringbah which at that time was mostly bushland, but it was their only option if they were to eventually own their own home. After renting a cottage in Regatta Avenue for a short they made the decision to buy a block of land in nearby Port Hacking Road. At the time building materials were very scarce and you had to "know somebody" in order to obtain building material such as timber, tiles etc.; luckily Jack was in the building trade and had a few connections. Jack and Marge first built a "temporary" dwelling followed by a full size house (both buildings are still standing). By this time their second child had arrived.
    Marge and Jack lived in the "house that Jack built" for many years and in 1955 their third child was born. Around this time Jack decided to try his hand at retailing and they bought a small store at Shelly Beach near Cronulla. By 1959 Jack realised he was not cut out for retailing and resumed his career in the building trade and moving back to Caringbah. Marge always handled the family finances and helped out by taking on part time work whenever she could. Life was not always easy, but Marge staunchly held the family together and was a totally devoted wife and mother.
    After Jack retired they were able to manage a few overseas trips and enjoyed many hours on Botany Bay in their little tinnie catching flathead by the dozen. They often relaxed at the Caringbah RSL club, where Jack was a very early member. The arrival of a new grandchild or great grandchild was a big occasion for Marge, she never forgot their birthdays and they could count on a card in the mail with the customary $5 note. When Jack became ill and was in hospital, Marge was a daily visitor and carer, often walking long distances every day. After Jack passed away in 2005, Marge continued as the family matriarch, she had a special place in her heart for a couple of the more mischievous great grandchildren. She always looked forward to the occasional glass of beer and the odd flutter on the poker machines at the SUS club on Sundays.
    Marge's passing marks the end of an era, as all of her siblings and cousins have also passed away.
    Marge Kelly was a gentle lady with a heart of gold, pioneer of Sutherland Shire and devoted wife, mother, grandmother and great grandmother.

    Notes:

    Married:
    St.Peters church, Watson's Bay

    Children:
    1. 2. Living
    2. Living
    3. Living

  3. 6.  William GrayerWilliam Grayer was born on 09 May 1899 in New Southgate, England (son of Henry Grayer and Emma Elizabeth Snelgrove); died on 23 Nov 1958 in Southgate, England; was buried in Southgate. England.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Soldier in WWI Van Driver (Gas Company) at time of marriage to Marjorie
    • Residence: 1911, Southgate, England

    Notes:

    Birth:
    Born at:

    7 Garfield Road
    New Southgate
    Southgate
    District of Edmonton
    County of Middlesex

    Died:
    Cause of death:

    1. Broncho pneumonia

    2. Paralitic ileus

    William married Marjorie Hester Robertson on 29 Sep 1951 in Wood Green, Middlesex. Marjorie (daughter of Ernest Edward Robertson and Winifred Josephine Paull) was born on 09 Oct 1919 in Edmonton, England; died on 05 Feb 1986 in Kogarah, NSW, Australia; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Marjorie Hester RobertsonMarjorie Hester Robertson was born on 09 Oct 1919 in Edmonton, England (daughter of Ernest Edward Robertson and Winifred Josephine Paull); died on 05 Feb 1986 in Kogarah, NSW, Australia; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.

    Notes:

    Married:
    William lived at:
    55 Burlington Road
    East Barnett

    Marjorie lived at:
    27 The Mall
    Southgate

    Children:
    1. 3. Living


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Arthur Henry KellyArthur Henry Kelly was born on 15 May 1882 in Bathurst, NSW, Australia (son of Thomas Kelly and Sarah Anne Palmer); died on 4 Jun 1967 in Malabar, NSW, Australia; was buried on 8 Jun 1967 in La Perouse, NSW, Australia.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Sydney, NSW, Australia; Arthur was part of the entourage for clown Roy Rene (known as "Mo McCacky" or "Mo"). He was the doorman at the Tivoli and also worked at his brother's cinema in Bathurst.
    • Residence: 1930, Darlinghurst, NSW, Australia
    • Residence: 1937-1963, La Perouse, NSW, Australia

    Notes:

    Died:
    NSW BDM 3629/1967

    Buried:
    Rose Gardens, Garden M3

    Arthur married Jessie Edith S Griffin on 19 Jul 1904 in Bathurst, NSW, Australia. Jessie (daughter of Michael John Griffin and Elizabeth Norbary) was born on 9 Jun 1881 in Myall Camp, NSW, Australia; died on 18 Dec 1940; was buried on 19 Dec 1940 in La Perouse, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Jessie Edith S GriffinJessie Edith S Griffin was born on 9 Jun 1881 in Myall Camp, NSW, Australia (daughter of Michael John Griffin and Elizabeth Norbary); died on 18 Dec 1940; was buried on 19 Dec 1940 in La Perouse, NSW, Australia.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1930-1938, Cremorne, NSW, Australia; 40 Illiliwa St.
    • Residence: 1940, Bondi, NSW, Australia; 68 Plowman St. 2 Bognor Flats

    Notes:

    Birth:
    NSW BDM 11510/1881 = "UnNamed Griffin"

    Born at Myalls Camp where father was a boundary rider

    Buried:
    Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
    RCC - Roman Catholic FM C - 293

    Died:
    NSW BDM 21389/1940

    Notes:

    Arthur abandoned his family shortly after John was born (1916). John remembered approaching his father and asking him for money to support the family. The response was "so you are little Johnny?" - but there was no money forthcoming. He was also charged with wife desertion in June 1910.

    Married:
    St Michael and Johns Cathedral

    NSW BDM 6064/1904

    Children:
    1. Irene Mary Patricia Kelly was born on 28 Nov 1904 in Bathurst, NSW, Australia; died on 7 May 1984 in Rose Bay, NSW, Australia.
    2. Albert Edward Kelly was born on 21 Apr 1906 in Bathurst, NSW, Australia.
    3. William Norbary Kelly was born in 1909 in Lismore, NSW, Australia; died on 18 Dec 1987 in Rose Bay, NSW, Australia; was buried in Matraville, NSW, Australia.
    4. 4. John Kevin Kelly was born on 11 Feb 1916 in Sydney, NSW, Australia; died on 02 Jun 2005 in Kareena Hospital, Caringbah, NSW; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.

  3. 10.  Thomas Ohalam SmithThomas Ohalam Smith was born on 30 Apr 1888 in Gilgandra, NSW, Australia (son of John Thomas Smith and Catherine Elizabeth Donnelly); died on 2 Dec 1966 in Little Bay, NSW, Australia; was buried on 5 Dec 1966 in Botany, NSW, Australia.

    Notes:

    From Dan Byrnes:

    His mother died a few weeks after he was born at Gilgandra. He was given to a family named Johnsn/Johnston to be cared for. He saw his father only once, when he was about three years old. Thomas applied for his birth certificate in 1928, when he was 40. Or, Ohalam. He may be John Thomas O Smith? Larkin has notes from general records, births, of Smith, 1888, Thomas O. Smith, to John T. and Catherine of Coonamble, in 1885 a John Thomas S, to John and Hannah at Brisbane Waters. This Thomas is of Waverly in the Larkin tree. Late in his life, his lost parents were once identified but he never bothered to delve further into who were his siblings. Where is that info? Grandfather of compiler Daniel Thomas Byrnes. Cf., David Austin Larkin, Cornwall to Coogee: Taylor, Rooke and Windle Family Histories. Self-published, Burpengary Qld, 1989. ISBN 0 9592440 1 8.



    From daughter Marge Kelly 26/1/2008:

    Tom's mother Catherine died when Tom was only 3 weeks old and Tom was raised on a farm by the Johnson family of Gilgandra. Tom's only memory of his father was when Tom was 3 years old his father came to visit him and gave him a bag of marbles, he watched his Dad ride away and never saw him again.

    Tom became friendly with the Hamilton family who owned a hotel in Dubbo, and accompanied some of the Hamilton boys to Sydney. This was a permanent move for Tom. The Hamiltons also had an electrical store in Sydney and Tom acquired appliances from them. He owned a radio at a time when they were not common and also a clock which he kept all his life and which stayed in the possession of Elizabeth after his death. Those that knew Tom and Elizabeth probably remember the clock sitting on the mantelpiece and the ritual winding of same. Tom always kept in touch with the Hamiltons, one of the Hamilton sisters attended Elizabeth's 90th birthday in Tamworth and commented at the time that Tom "was always a good boy". Tom always said he was the youngest of 7 siblings.

    Marge remembers Tom said that he slept his first night in Sydney on a Manly ferry (stowed away?)

    Tom's foster parents only gave him two years of primary education prior to putting him to work on their farm. After moving to Sydney, Tom realised the he needed further education and studied as a mature age student. He turned out to be a good mathmetician and Marge remembers evening visits by Vaucluse Council engineers to discuss with Tom how a road should be designed and to work out the curves etc.

    From Debbie Musgrave:

    Grave details: Anglican 5D Row 7 Grave no. 87


    From Debbie Musgrave:

    Tom's mother did NOT die shortly after he was born, this was just a story that Tom handed down to his family. His parents actually abandoned him. His mother died at Redfern 33 years later just a short distance from where her abandoned son Tom was living.

    Buried:
    Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
    A5D - Anglican FM 5D - 87

    Tom's burial was delayed by a strike at the cemetery.

    Died:
    Prince Henry Hospital (The Coast Hospital)

    Thomas married Elizabeth Emily Windle on 12 Jul 1915 in Waverley, NSW, Australia. Elizabeth (daughter of Alfred Ernest Windle and Sarah Rebecca Meades) was born on 26 Nov 1893 in Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia; died on 29 Apr 1985 in The Entrance, NSW, Australia; was buried on 2 May 1985 in Botany, NSW, Australia. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Elizabeth Emily WindleElizabeth Emily Windle was born on 26 Nov 1893 in Coogee Bay, NSW, Australia (daughter of Alfred Ernest Windle and Sarah Rebecca Meades); died on 29 Apr 1985 in The Entrance, NSW, Australia; was buried on 2 May 1985 in Botany, NSW, Australia.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Seamstress

    Notes:

    From Dan Byrnes:

    Marries 1915 in Larkin tree. She is born 1894 in Larkin tree. More to come. there is gernforum at http://www.jenforum.net/windle/. There are Windles of Indian, Braxton Co WV, Virginia, Moncton New Brunswick Canada, New Market Virginia, Milwaukee Wisconsin, Charles Windle of South London, Michigan, Chicago, of Horton, Yorkshire England, of Preston Lancs, England. Windle of New Zealand. Family history by David Larkin, Cornwall to Coogee, 23 Eleanor St., Burpengary, QLD 4505. Phone: (07) 3888 2168.



    Birth:
    St. Pauls Street

    Buried:
    Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
    A5D - Anglican FM 5D - 87

    Notes:

    From Marjorie Smith:

    After Tom and Elizabeth were married they lived with Elizabeth's mother Sarah at Bondi Junction (Mill Hill Road) for a period before moving to St, Leonards where Tom had secured employment as a labouror. When Tom secured employment with Vaucluse Council they moved to Vaucluse and lived a small house which was only half built and was called "The Rest". Around 1928 they moved to Watson's Bay where the children grew up and which was always a "special place" for them.



    From Debbie Musgrave (marriage certificate):

    Tom and Elizabeth wre married on 12 Jul 1915 at St. Barnabus' church, Mill Hill, Waverly by Robert Lyle Houston, minister.

    Children:
    1. Phyllis Smith was born on 26 Apr 1916 in Waverley, NSW, Australia; died on 07 Nov 2000.
    2. Sarah Smith was born on 12 May 1917 in Bondi Junction, NSW, Australia; died on 31 Jul 2000 in Tamworth, NSW, Australia.
    3. Lionel Keith Smith was born on 09 Sep 1918 in St. Leonards, NSW, Australia; died on 24 Dec 1980 in Maroubra, NSW, Australia; was buried on 10 Feb 1981 in Botany, NSW, Australia.
    4. 5. Marjorie Smith was born on 14 Feb 1921 in Willoughby, NSW, Australia; died on 12 Jun 2014 in Kirrawee, NSW, Australia; was buried on 20 Jun 2014 in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.

  5. 12.  Henry GrayerHenry Grayer was born in Apr 1863 in Landford, Wiltshire, England; was christened on 24 May 1863 in Landford, Wiltshire, England (son of John Grayer and Harriet Noble); died in Jun 1946 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Nurse at mental institution
    • Residence: 1911, Southgate, Middlesex, England

    Henry married Emma Elizabeth Snelgrove in 1890. Emma (daughter of George Snelgrove and Ellen Vincent) was born on 4 Jul 1861 in Hampworth, Wiltshire, England; died in Sep 1921 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet]


  6. 13.  Emma Elizabeth SnelgroveEmma Elizabeth Snelgrove was born on 4 Jul 1861 in Hampworth, Wiltshire, England (daughter of George Snelgrove and Ellen Vincent); died in Sep 1921 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1911, Southgate, England

    Notes:

    Address in 1901 census:

    7 Garfield Road Southgate, New Southgate

    County: Middlesex

    Children:
    1. Edith Grayer was born in 1890; died in 1890.
    2. Ethel Grayer was born in Apr 1891.
    3. Harry Grayer was born in 1892; died in 1952.
    4. George Grayer was born in 1894; died in 1894.
    5. Charles Grayer was born on 7 Dec 1894; died in Sep 1972.
    6. Wilfred Grayer was born in 1896; died in 1896.
    7. Ellen Grayer was born on 21 Jul 1897.
    8. 6. William Grayer was born on 09 May 1899 in New Southgate, England; died on 23 Nov 1958 in Southgate, England; was buried in Southgate. England.
    9. Frederick Grayer was born in 1901; died in 1969 in Gosport, England.

  7. 14.  Ernest Edward Robertson was born on 19 Jul 1889 in Holborn, London, England (son of Alfred Robertson); died in 1949.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Boiler Maker
    • Occupation: 1916, Islington, London, England; Fireman, Royal Naval Reserve

    Ernest married Winifred Josephine Paull on 8 Jan 1916 in Barnsbury, England. Winifred (daughter of Sidney John Paull and Hester Campbell) was born on 9 Apr 1888 in Islington, London, England; was christened on 6 May 1888 in Islington, Middlesex; died in 1950 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet]


  8. 15.  Winifred Josephine PaullWinifred Josephine Paull was born on 9 Apr 1888 in Islington, London, England; was christened on 6 May 1888 in Islington, Middlesex (daughter of Sidney John Paull and Hester Campbell); died in 1950 in Edmonton, Middlesex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: 1915, Islington, London, England; 41 Huntington Street

    Notes:

    Married:
    St. Andrews

    Children:
    1. Mildred Constance Robertson was born on 29 Sep 1917; died in May 1987 in Hereford, England.
    2. 7. Marjorie Hester Robertson was born on 09 Oct 1919 in Edmonton, England; died on 05 Feb 1986 in Kogarah, NSW, Australia; was buried in Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW, Australia.